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 Post subject: Where's the screen?
PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:45 am 
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Dolphins keep getting 8-9 in the box. Tannehill is getting rushed constantly. Where is a screen pass to Bush? Miami needs to do something to protect Tannehill and get a running game going again?

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 Post subject: Re: Where's the screen?
PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:53 am 
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Saving all effective plays for the Jets. There have been screens to Clay and Lane. I'd like to see Miller get the ball in the open field.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:33 am 
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There's definitely been some screens here and there, but not nearly as much as I expected. I think it should be a staple of this offense, both to help slow down the defensive pressure and to get the ball to Bush/Miller in space.

Speaking of Lamar Miller...I think he may have pissed on Coach Sherman's dog or something. Makes no sense at all to keep him on the bench while Thomas is out and Reggie is banged up.


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 Post subject: Re: Where's the screen?
PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:53 pm 
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Miller supposedly, just can not pass protect. What better place to insert a guy who can't block, than on a screen, where you are SUPPOSED to let the defense rush the QB?

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 Post subject: Re: Where's the screen?
PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:03 pm 
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The screen is effective when thee defense doesn't think the back isn't that dangerous out of the backfield. We can't effectively throw screens with bush because bush is more effective in the open field then running up the gut. So the only logical defensive move is to spy Reggie out of the backfield. Our screens would be more effective with either miller or Thomas IMHO


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:06 am 
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While very true, umix, it's really the most effective when the other team is selling out to blitz. The linemen have to be athletic enough to get out there and block for the screen too.

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The screen is effective when thee defense doesn't think the back isn't that dangerous out of the backfield. We can't effectively throw screens with bush because bush is more effective in the open field then running up the gut. So the only logical defensive move is to spy Reggie out of the backfield. Our screens would be more effective with either miller or Thomas IMHO


I get what you're saying, but IMO that isn't what happens. Look at Bush when he was in New Orleans, or Sproles now. Teams that successfully run screens do so not because their backs aren't dangerous, but because their QB and OL sell it and everyone knows and completes their assignment and their back can make plays in the open field. Bush is the ideal back for running screens - maybe the best in the NFL.

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The linemen have to be athletic enough to get out there and block for the screen too.


Yep, and that's part of Miami's problem with screens...we have two of the least athletic guards in the league.


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 Post subject: Re: Where's the screen?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:30 am 
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Look at Bush when he was in New Orleans, or Sproles now


I get what you are trying to say but, its difficult for me to compare the weapons that we have (or lack there of) to what New Orleans has. Ive watched a couple of Saints games and no one crowds the box with 8 or 9 on them. New Orleans has too much to do that.

Crowding 8 or 9 in the box just makes it easier to defend the run and the screen. IMHO.


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I get what you are trying to say but, its difficult for me to compare the weapons that we have (or lack there of) to what New Orleans has. Ive watched a couple of Saints games and no one crowds the box with 8 or 9 on them. New Orleans has too much to do that.


I was just using the Saints as an example of a team that ran/runs good screens with dangerous RBs. Ultimately the ability to run screens comes down to the OL, QB and RB all handling their assignments - as well as TEs and WRs being able to block.

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Crowding 8 or 9 in the box just makes it easier to defend the run and the screen. IMHO.


If the D is staying home and playing the run - sure, it's easier to defend. But if the offense executes correctly, they can still run screens. And if the D blitzes, that's when things like screens and draws are most effective.


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 Post subject: Re: Where's the screen?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:07 pm 
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We ran some screens last week. It's clear that we need to get a little more creative with them.. and practice them more. But, definitely promise there. Reggie got us to the goal line on a screen. TD Fasano.

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